Comments on: Desktop 2.0 http://natanyellin.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/ The Personal Weblog of Natan Yellin Tue, 02 Feb 2010 23:53:26 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Recent Links Tagged With "onlinedesktop" - JabberTags http://natanyellin.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/comment-page-1/#comment-11237 Recent Links Tagged With "onlinedesktop" - JabberTags Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:04:26 +0000 http://theesylum.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/#comment-11237 [...] public links >> onlinedesktop Desktop 2.0 Saved by singerjonny on Fri 26-9-2008 Letem světem, internetem #1 Saved by verifex on Thu [...] [...] public links >> onlinedesktop Desktop 2.0 Saved by singerjonny on Fri 26-9-2008 Letem světem, internetem #1 Saved by verifex on Thu [...]

]]> By: The Esylum http://natanyellin.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/comment-page-1/#comment-4840 The Esylum Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:28:14 +0000 http://theesylum.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/#comment-4840 [...] In the meantime, this post should provide adequate installation instructions and a quick developer overview for those of you who have been asking. If you haven’t already done so, please read this article first. [...] [...] In the meantime, this post should provide adequate installation instructions and a quick developer overview for those of you who have been asking. If you haven’t already done so, please read this article first. [...]

]]> By: The Esylum http://natanyellin.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/comment-page-1/#comment-4425 The Esylum Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:27:02 +0000 http://theesylum.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/#comment-4425 [...] few weeks ago I wrote up a post explaining the rationale behind the idea. You can find it here: http://theesylum.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/. There is also a forum thread on the idea here.Please note that much of the information in the first [...] [...] few weeks ago I wrote up a post explaining the rationale behind the idea. You can find it here: http://theesylum.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/. There is also a forum thread on the idea here.Please note that much of the information in the first [...]

]]> By: The Esylum http://natanyellin.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/comment-page-1/#comment-4135 The Esylum Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:31:23 +0000 http://theesylum.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/#comment-4135 [...] created a new branch of Screenlets on Launchpad for Universal Applets. Right now the branch is just the same a trunk, but I’ll be pushing a revision [...] [...] created a new branch of Screenlets on Launchpad for Universal Applets. Right now the branch is just the same a trunk, but I’ll be pushing a revision [...]

]]> By: Ketil http://natanyellin.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/comment-page-1/#comment-4114 Ketil Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:35:52 +0000 http://theesylum.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/#comment-4114 Very well put! I'm continuing to follow all the ground breaking stuff that is coming out of e.g. Screenlets, AWN and Compiz Fusion, and I'm disappointed of Gnome's lack of interest in paving new way on the desktop. I just don't get their conservative approach. It's coming to the point where I would've started using KDE if I hadn't been so used to Gnome. Thanks for these words of wisdom! Very well put!
I’m continuing to follow all the ground breaking stuff that is coming out of e.g. Screenlets, AWN and Compiz Fusion, and I’m disappointed of Gnome’s lack of interest in paving new way on the desktop. I just don’t get their conservative approach. It’s coming to the point where I would’ve started using KDE if I hadn’t been so used to Gnome.

Thanks for these words of wisdom!

]]> By: admin http://natanyellin.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/comment-page-1/#comment-4013 admin Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:02:04 +0000 http://theesylum.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/#comment-4013 Owen, even without a server there still should be a universal applets format. What I'm working on is mostly based on the Screenlets API, and the server isn't absolutely necessary. "After all a chance to rewrite something is a chance to get someone involved. :-)." Well, if there's nothing to rewrite then people will simply find other ways to get involved such as improving the current code. ;) Owen, even without a server there still should be a universal applets format. What I’m working on is mostly based on the Screenlets API, and the server isn’t absolutely necessary.

“After all a chance to rewrite something is a chance to get someone involved. :-) .”
Well, if there’s nothing to rewrite then people will simply find other ways to get involved such as improving the current code. ;)

]]> By: Owen Taylor http://natanyellin.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/comment-page-1/#comment-4012 Owen Taylor Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:49:20 +0000 http://theesylum.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/#comment-4012 You definitely bring up a good point here: there are all sorts of people writing new ways to extend GNOME or replace elements of it (mostly in Python, for some reason or the other :-), and there is little or no coordination between the projects. Convergence would be really nice to see. I do think it's possible to be over-concerned with people writing code multiple times, especially if the hard backend code can be encapsulated into shared libraries (weather => libgweather, window manager interaction => libwnck, etc.) After all a chance to rewrite something is a chance to get someone involved. :-). In general, I think it's a lot easier to write normal python libraries than to create a central "server" process. One of the ideas of the online-desktop project is to have libraries for getting data with change notification (the desktop-data-model) and a single http stack with shared cookies,etc (yet to be done) You definitely bring up a good point here: there are all sorts of people writing new ways to extend GNOME or replace elements of it (mostly in Python, for some reason or the other :-) , and there is little or no coordination between the projects. Convergence would be really nice to see.

I do think it’s possible to be over-concerned with people writing code multiple times, especially if the hard backend code can be encapsulated into shared libraries (weather => libgweather, window manager interaction => libwnck, etc.) After all a chance to rewrite something is a chance to get someone involved. :-) . In general, I think it’s a lot easier to write normal python libraries than to create a central “server” process. One of the ideas of the online-desktop project is to have libraries for getting data with change notification (the desktop-data-model) and a single http stack with shared cookies,etc (yet to be done)

]]> By: The Esylum http://natanyellin.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/comment-page-1/#comment-3993 The Esylum Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:26:51 +0000 http://theesylum.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/#comment-3993 [...] See this for an explanation of what Desktop 2.0 is. [...] [...] See this for an explanation of what Desktop 2.0 is. [...]

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